The following discussion happen on a WhatsApp grp, it has
been shared to give a different angle to the numerous political discussions happening
in Pakistan:
AM shared a link to a post about new cybercrime bill in
Pakistan
[4:57 AM, 7/29/2016]
urShadow: AM: the post shows as if there is something wrong
with the cyber crime law, I guess IK has to propose such a law then it will
become an overnight success and government will b accused that y they hav r not
implemented such a law, we r muslims in an Islamic country, we should be
civilized and ethical, thus unethical things should b punishable, but current
government is kafir thus we want IK in gov, blah blah
[5:19 AM, 7/29/2016]
KN: urShadow,
mere Bhai 🙂 point being if this govt doesn't have
ethics or honesty in other matters of operation then why be so honest / ethical
in cyber laws. "Making the meme of NS would be punishable by law",
where is the fun in that 😄
[5:27 AM, 7/29/2016]
urShadow: It's
same like saying, falana banda smoking krta hai tu Namaz q perhta hai, smoking
se rok nhi sakte, iss ki Namaz ki kit laga do
What is fun for 1 and not for other is not fun, we hav to
reconsider what we consider as fun
[5:36 AM, 7/29/2016]
KN: urShadow,
that is not apples to apples comparison. Here a person is imposing on me, you
and everyone something he doesn't follow himself, why would I be subjected to
his will or a law he chooses, the same law he or they considers themselves an
exception from.
[5:36 AM, 7/29/2016]
SK: I dnt
have the stamina to read this article .. can somebdy summarise it here pls ..
wot r d pain points besides punishing those who makes fun of NS ..
[5:38 AM, 7/29/2016]
urShadow: What
he is imposing is good in absolute terms then y would u not like to follow?
Just coz u don't like the person, just think about it how it sounds
[5:49 AM, 7/29/2016]
KN: urShadow
there might be good things here and there but altogether this is too much, IMHO
this is too controlling & people will use it badly to control free speech,
knowledge sharing and freedom of expression. Or might as well use it for
personal vendetta they have against any member of the ghareeb awam 🙂,
Pakistan after all is an Islamic
Democratic republic and not a fascist state 😬,
[5:53 AM, 7/29/2016]
urShadow: Look
at the civilizations where there has been no control, in past and present
Just to clear, there is Islam or there is no Islam, there is
no middle way (enlightened moderation)
[5:57 AM, 7/29/2016]
SK: U think
there is Islam in Pakistan??
[6:00 AM, 7/29/2016]
urShadow: If
there was, would people hav been complaining about such laws?
[6:11 AM, 7/29/2016]
SK: Ok .. if
it was an Islamic state then, wud the likes of NS, Bhuttos n IK cud ever come
to power !!??
[6:13 AM, 7/29/2016]
urShadow: Don't
knw, they were not born and raised in an Islamic environment
[6:17 AM, 7/29/2016]
SK: It is not
mandatory tht a leader be raised in a Muslim environment .. however its
mandatory tht he should b a good muslim and obedient to d scripture ..
[6:19 AM, 7/29/2016]
urShadow: Correct
[6:21 AM, 7/29/2016]
SK: Ok good
.. so v agree on this point . Now d next point .. For quite some time we r hearing
abt the corruption etc .. nearly everyone is involved and ppl r ready to
protest at highest level .. wot is d top most or the most critical corruption
btw !!!!!
[6:28 AM, 7/29/2016]
urShadow: Good
to knw that, so?
[6:31 AM, 7/29/2016]
SK: Tht was
not a statement but a question ..
[6:32 AM, 7/29/2016]
urShadow: Not
following islam
[7:24 AM, 7/29/2016]
SK: Yea true
.. but to be precise d greatest corruption is not implmenting the Law of Allah
otherwise Sajday ki ijazat to Hindustan m bhe thi to alag mulk leny ki kya
zaroorat !!
Unfortunately nobdy talks abt tht corruption ..
[7:44 AM, 7/29/2016]
urShadow: If
people r so fed up of this corruption then hav they started doing something
about it?
No one is stopping us from implementing the law of Allah on ourselves.
Or we think that someone else will come and remove the corruption from within ourselves? Do we think protesting against everything good or bad, continuous criticism and gheebat, walking in rallies and dharnas, singing and dancing, voting for a certain person will really make us turn towards Allah? I guess all this can just replace 1 punisher with another
-urShadow
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